if they want to say, we won't raise the debt ceiling unless you cut medicare, make our day. >> chris: meaning, go ahead and default the country? >> no, make or day, meaning, that position is untenable politically and it will not last. you will not be able to hold it. >> chris: a little time left and i want to go to a couple of other subjects. senator schumer on the first day of the next congress in january, will democrats change the rules on filibusters by a simple majority, rather than the 2/3 majority you generally need, to change rules in the senate? >> okay. everyone knows the senate is broken and needs fixing. i think bob corker would say that, we have had discussions. we're friends. most democrats -- almost all democrats and all republicans believe that and i think it is also true that our preference would be to do this by 2/3 in a bipartisan way. there are all kinds of discussions going on with all kinds of groups, to try and come up with some agreement. the basic problem is, republicans say we don't allow the amendments and we say they don't let our bills go on the floor. you